Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
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Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
Just wondering which is better ? Steel or Wood ?
Is the ATS brand located at Amcorp Mall up to the par ?
Is the ATS brand located at Amcorp Mall up to the par ?
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Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
<RM400 4 pillar sand fillable steel type. These are local made, brandless / generic.
Don't believe in speaker stand brand unless those dedicated for Sonus Faber, Harbeth, etc.
Don't believe in speaker stand brand unless those dedicated for Sonus Faber, Harbeth, etc.
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Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
Emm.... Try the Audio Physics speaker stands, looks good & sound good too. Around RM1000 +-
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Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
Even better - SOLID MARBLE. Weighs "a ton" but provides true resonance-free / vibration-free performance. Malaysia has luxurious white Ipoh marble deposits which can be customised into speaker stands according to the speakers dimensions.
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air-11,
are you using one, since you from Ipoh ?
are you using one, since you from Ipoh ?
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Good spot! I just had one custom made to fit perfectly to the dimension (exact width and length) of my ProAc Tablette 50 Signature speakers. Used la solid 1 piece local white marble as the main column with a granite plinth at its base.
It weighs about 70kg each and is literally unmovable like a "rock". The brain child of combining a hifi enthusiast with a marble factory that has a skilled workforce
Foreign hifi companies use wood and steel coz its easy to manufacture and cheaper to transport (weight is always a cost issue for imports). Ipoh is very near KL and workers here are cheap too!
It weighs about 70kg each and is literally unmovable like a "rock". The brain child of combining a hifi enthusiast with a marble factory that has a skilled workforce
Foreign hifi companies use wood and steel coz its easy to manufacture and cheaper to transport (weight is always a cost issue for imports). Ipoh is very near KL and workers here are cheap too!
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what is the cost to custom made a pair ? I'm interrested.
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Estimated price (including sending it down to KL) is only approximately RM1000. Obviously the cost also depends on the dimension of your speaker and how you want to custom make your soild marble speaker stand.
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air-11 wrote:Good spot! I just had one custom made to fit perfectly to the dimension (exact width and length) of my ProAc Tablette 50 Signature speakers. Used la solid 1 piece local white marble as the main column with a granite plinth at its base.
It weighs about 70kg each and is literally unmovable like a "rock". The brain child of combining a hifi enthusiast with a marble factory that has a skilled workforce
Foreign hifi companies use wood and steel coz its easy to manufacture and cheaper to transport (weight is always a cost issue for imports). Ipoh is very near KL and workers here are cheap too!
Bro,
Would you be keen to post a picture here of your stands for reference?
Many thanks,
Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
Gladly! Will do it over the weekend as it will only be delivered to my home tomorrow.
Both speaker stands weigh 130kg combined! Will also post pics of a matching hifi rack using solid marble support columns - this one weighs another staggering 109kg!!! Would only recommend this to hifi users who have a strong back...
The idea behind these speaker stands was inspired by those of Sonus Faber's Guarneri (which has a stone plinth) and taking one step further by building the whole stand with solid marble.
Every speaker stand will be one-of-a-kind because every different stone it is made out of will have different swirls, veins and colour. Not even every owner of a B&W Nautilus or a Wilson Audio WAMM can say theirs is one-of-a-kind in the world!
Both speaker stands weigh 130kg combined! Will also post pics of a matching hifi rack using solid marble support columns - this one weighs another staggering 109kg!!! Would only recommend this to hifi users who have a strong back...
The idea behind these speaker stands was inspired by those of Sonus Faber's Guarneri (which has a stone plinth) and taking one step further by building the whole stand with solid marble.
Every speaker stand will be one-of-a-kind because every different stone it is made out of will have different swirls, veins and colour. Not even every owner of a B&W Nautilus or a Wilson Audio WAMM can say theirs is one-of-a-kind in the world!
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Here are pics of my solid marble (with granite plinth) speaker stand. These are custom made to the dimensions of my speakers so that it covers the complete footprint of the speakers. Why?
Answer: As most experienced audiophiles will know, speakers are heaviest at the front - thats where the speaker driver's magnets are located. As a result, fitting your speaker on a speaker stand which has a much smaller base footprint means that it is very flimsy due to the uneven weight distribution (similar to how models try to balance a book on top of their head!). The earths gravitational pull on different ends of the speaker and the constant mechanical vibration from the speakers will only exarcebate the speaker's imbalance.
Therefore, by custom designing the speaker stand to the exact speaker footprint, all the weight is evenly distributed onto the stand's column. Accompanied with the use of a solid slab of marble which does not resonate / ring / vibrate, every watt of power will be able to be focussed on the speaker drivers to generate the pure music your quality speakers are meant to produce.
Here is a 3rd party website which supports my humble opinion:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/akropolise.html
Below is a closer view of the distinctive lines and colour on the marble column:
(Click on the thumbnail for a bigger pic)
The picture below is of my speaker stands with a matching hifi rack made of the same materials:
(Click on the thumbnails for a bigger pic)
Anyone interested to custom design their own pair of solid marble and granite speaker stands / hifi rack for their beloved hifi gears, please feel free to contact me at 019-5576669.
Would also appreciate if anyone has any opinions they care to share with me!
Answer: As most experienced audiophiles will know, speakers are heaviest at the front - thats where the speaker driver's magnets are located. As a result, fitting your speaker on a speaker stand which has a much smaller base footprint means that it is very flimsy due to the uneven weight distribution (similar to how models try to balance a book on top of their head!). The earths gravitational pull on different ends of the speaker and the constant mechanical vibration from the speakers will only exarcebate the speaker's imbalance.
Therefore, by custom designing the speaker stand to the exact speaker footprint, all the weight is evenly distributed onto the stand's column. Accompanied with the use of a solid slab of marble which does not resonate / ring / vibrate, every watt of power will be able to be focussed on the speaker drivers to generate the pure music your quality speakers are meant to produce.
Here is a 3rd party website which supports my humble opinion:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/akropolise.html
Below is a closer view of the distinctive lines and colour on the marble column:
(Click on the thumbnail for a bigger pic)
The picture below is of my speaker stands with a matching hifi rack made of the same materials:
(Click on the thumbnails for a bigger pic)
Anyone interested to custom design their own pair of solid marble and granite speaker stands / hifi rack for their beloved hifi gears, please feel free to contact me at 019-5576669.
Would also appreciate if anyone has any opinions they care to share with me!
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the hifi rack looks cool !
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Thanks! The hifi rack is so absurdly heavy it takes 3 men to move it!
Price Guidelines (inclusive of door-to-door delivery):
Hifi Rack - RM2500
Speaker Stands - RM1300 (based on my speakers dimensions)
Price Guidelines (inclusive of door-to-door delivery):
Hifi Rack - RM2500
Speaker Stands - RM1300 (based on my speakers dimensions)
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hi air-11, they looks grand but how about the sound out of it..
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Its quite remarkable how any sound colouration disappears from the system. The inert base of the soild marble slab helps to eliminate any vibration / ringing / resonance from other conventional stands. And there are many reasons behind this:
The problem with all steel speaker stands is that it is not truly inert. Try knocking your knuckles on it and you will hear a ringing sound plus the vibrations on the steel surface. Imagine the effects a constantly vibrating speaker placed on top of it does to the sound. (likewise, on sand-filled steel speaker stands, the speakers energy is wasted on vibrating the sand particles which are not attached to the stand)
Now, try knocking your knuckles on a SOLID slab of marble / granite. Other than the dead sound of silence from the knock, people around you may sometimes hear the sound of you screaming in pain...
Moreover, there are ZERO moving parts in these stands. The connecting parts of the stand are attached with super strong industrial adhesives. One problem I always had with steel speaker stands is that no matter how hard you tighten the screws, it always eventually becomes loose over time - caused by the speakers constant vibration. This is why audio experts advise to tighten the screws of your speakers and speaker stands every now and then. If not your systems sound quality will deteriorate with time.
The problem with all steel speaker stands is that it is not truly inert. Try knocking your knuckles on it and you will hear a ringing sound plus the vibrations on the steel surface. Imagine the effects a constantly vibrating speaker placed on top of it does to the sound. (likewise, on sand-filled steel speaker stands, the speakers energy is wasted on vibrating the sand particles which are not attached to the stand)
Now, try knocking your knuckles on a SOLID slab of marble / granite. Other than the dead sound of silence from the knock, people around you may sometimes hear the sound of you screaming in pain...
Moreover, there are ZERO moving parts in these stands. The connecting parts of the stand are attached with super strong industrial adhesives. One problem I always had with steel speaker stands is that no matter how hard you tighten the screws, it always eventually becomes loose over time - caused by the speakers constant vibration. This is why audio experts advise to tighten the screws of your speakers and speaker stands every now and then. If not your systems sound quality will deteriorate with time.
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Hi air-11,
This is awesome looking rack. What is the company's name that did this racks for you? Currently i have wooden rack and would like to upgarde it to the likes of yours.
Tq.
This is awesome looking rack. What is the company's name that did this racks for you? Currently i have wooden rack and would like to upgarde it to the likes of yours.
Tq.
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Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
The company is S.R.Marble (http://www.sr-marble.com), as I am the only "hifi-savvy" employee at the company, you are most welcomed to contact or make an order directly through me.
I am based at the marble factory here in Ipoh so you can rest assure that I will personally monitor the whole construction of your order, from marble stone to hifi rack, to the highest standards.
If interested, please email me at kwteh@mftr.com / call me at 012-5129689 / leave a reply on this post
Thanks for the support!
I am based at the marble factory here in Ipoh so you can rest assure that I will personally monitor the whole construction of your order, from marble stone to hifi rack, to the highest standards.
If interested, please email me at kwteh@mftr.com / call me at 012-5129689 / leave a reply on this post
Thanks for the support!
Last edited by air-11 on Tue May 12, 2009 10:58 am; edited 2 times in total
Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
Please check out this article which was printed in TheStar newspaper:
http://sites.thestar.com.my/audio/story.asp?file=/2009/6/1/afnews/3967804&sec=afnews
http://sites.thestar.com.my/audio/story.asp?file=/2009/6/1/afnews/3967804&sec=afnews
Re: Speaker stand Steel or wood ?
I prefer wood coz it is warmer, metal is properly design is good else you will those metallic resonace and marble will it sound too cool sounding. Remember they use to make kenwood highend turntable using somekinda like marble. I try that and found too cool sounding, no warmth in it...
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